Before you say that the older version has to be the only correct one, perhaps you should know that that position commits you to dropping the l in falcon and almond — in both cases it was added later but is accepted now. Oh, and schedule? In English which got it from Old French it used to be cedule , not "sh" or "sk" but "s"… which is completely wrong now.
A few centuries ago it was respelled and repronounced on the basis of the Latin schedula , which the French got it from. And then there are some words that have gained common "wrong" pronunciations due to normal change processes over time — mainly speakers' tongues going with what is easier in their accent. The mayonn in mayonnaise gets leveled out to "man"; the arct in arctic gets simplified to "art"; and, perhaps most famously, in nuclear the tongue keeps the same overall movement pattern but shifts a consonant so there's a more even — and easier-to-say — alternation: "nucular.
But just remember this: If the words bright, thrill, and ask had their vowels and consonants in the same order as they were in Old English, we would now be saying them as "birght," "thirl," and — yes — "aks.
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It is not a big deal. I shall simply revel in my correctness and laugh at everyone else as they run through the gantlet of the english language and flant their poor pronunciations. I hope no one is upset by my tanting. There is a "u" in there for a reason people, and it should not be ignored. Neilbert, you make an interesting observation, but the debate is between "a"nt and "ah"nt. They are all pronounced "-aw"nt. So if the majority of the population says "ant" and according to you they're incorrect, the remaining minority who say "ahnt" must also be incorrect according to you, so, er, um, I guess EVERYBODY is incorrect??
The entire English speaking world?? Even you?? I can only assume you say "ahnt" since you have only criticized the majority-spoken "ant". I pronounce it "ont" not "ant".
There's no wrong or right way. Either way is fine. Also, not just African Americans pronounce it "ont". I don't think it has to do with education, SES or race. DL1 May There are many words in the Queen's English that are similar in spelling but pronounced differently. Just because "au" is a part of "jaunt" or whatever examples someone gave, doesn't mean it's pronounced the same. Speaking of Cananda, "Newfoundland" , is not pronounced "new-found-land" It's pronounced "new-fin-lind".
I'm not saying that ant or ont is either correct or incorrect, That would surely show your ignorrance and the good Queen shall have your head. JoeMama May All rite m8 im 4m yeovil in england i werent ever vsay nuttin bout no ant onli de poshies say aunt we aint fackin sayin nuttin like dat. Yankee Fackers.
Whyster91 May Everyone take a deep breath, OK? WTF, I am from the West Coast orignially and have always pronounced it aunt as in "ont" and everyone can go blow.
Everyone mocks each other over the stupidest things, get over yourself. Toodles, I wish I had not ever found this webpage Monica2 Jun Heather3 Jun Ok, I'm really going to throw a wrench in the works. The argument so far as been between ant and ahnt. Well, for those who say ant, how many say it with the same assonance as hat, cat, at And for those who say ahnt, how many say it like font, con, ponder, and do any say it like awnt, as in fawn, pawn, launder?
There, that's four different ways to say it now! Of course, some of it is regional. What you have written is a complete waste of anyone's time.
Please refrain from this type of garbage in the future and consult your dictionary next time before making my day a little worse. What exactly is your objection to the previous post? It seemed to me to be a lighthearted attempt to make some interesting points. It was relevant, and no less valid than anything else in this thread. And "Merry Mary You are extremely rude and should make your attacks somewhere else. You might want to rethink your pseudonym, too.
Comparing you the them is an insult to primates everywhere. Well I agree Merry Mary We are not discussing accents here, we are discussing the correct pronunciation. Every english speaking country and state I have been to pronounces them one and the same. Okay, now I'm totally baffled. I've been amused until now with how very distressed and even holier-than-thou people can be about mere regionalistic pronunciations!
I'm surprised to see you say that, Sara. I am very curious. Exactly what part of the country are you from? Do note, The dictionary lists four different and distinct pronunciations. It has been my experience that most English speaking people pronounce them all differently, with four different vowel sounds as well.
This applies to Americans, British, and others who speak English as an international language. I met one person in college who had a twangy rural accent not sure from where who did pronounce them all the same. What was particularly interesting is, not only did she say them the same, she also could not hear the difference when someone else said them differently! See, amazed?
You ahvae no reason to be baffled. August; autumn; autonomy; aunt; automotive; etc. It's discussions like this that bring me to understand what God was thinking when he destroyed the Tower of Babel and gave the people of the world different langauges or however the story goes. This issue--is it ant or ahnt--has been pounded for about a year and a half, fostering an environment for absolute assertions, insults, immense pride, and all the things that make the world a nasty place.
Thankfully, we are all nerds and nerds do not wield guns. Our equivalents in government, unfortunately, do. Personally, I say ahnt. I am white. I am American. I feel no connection with the British heritage that I lack my parents immigrants from somewhere that isn't Britain. I will continue to say ahnt forever and nothing will stop me.
Furthermore, if you say ant or awnt or oint or aint or ownt or whatever , that's terrific. AO Jun Remember Aint Bea? I'm from Texas and a lot of central Texas folks say it "aint". For myself, sometimes I say ahnt and sometimes I say ant. And I think ahnt sounds the most sophisticated and aint sounds the least sophisticated. But what do I know? Sukeshini Jul Sukeshini, I suggest you scroll up and look at the previous posts.
None of the words you listed are pronounced like "aunt". While I seem to be repeating myself, some pronounce aunt as "ant" and some pronounce it as "ahnt", but all of the words you list are pronounced with an "aw-" sound, not an "ah-" sound, so your list really doesn't prove anything.
Very few I suppose I can't say none pronounce it as "awnt". Besides, such a list is meaningless. None of this has anything to do with how to pronounce "aunt". Unfortunately, neither does your list which isn't pronounced like ANY version of aunt, anyway. How do you pronounce the following: august author automobile auxilary austin austere autonomy. See a pattern here? I simply don't see why the 'ant' pronunciation of aunt is the more widely accepted. In fact, I can't think of any other words with the 'au' beginning that are pronounced like 'ant' The 'ont' way to say it seems much more logical.
Then again, when did logic ever rule with American English? John4 Jul John, why does the 'ont' way seem more logical to you? They all have an 'aw' sound, which would be 'awnt' not ont. This info has been posted three times already. Didn't you read the post immediately before yours?? Response to Anonymous previous post : vowels are always ambiguous. Consonants vary minimally from one dialect to the next but mainly it's vowels that distinguish speech forms.
The vowels in the words John gives, along with that in the word "aunt," can be rendered in a staggering variety of ways depending on where youre from So maybe, for some people, o and aw are the same.
I was so amazed to learn that the word "aunt" has caused such controversy in our world. I was really bothered about the pronunciation, so I decided to look up the word on the internet and clicked on this site. I am glad to find out that I am not alone. My family says "ant" and "ont. CynthiaAnn Jul My wife, from the Midwest says 'ant'. I am from New England, and I say 'aunt'. I'd like to think because of my higher SAT scores, I am smarter. However, as I did my research loser on this issue, I realized what a dope I am.
Does it really matter? Certainly not. I have always however, taken great pride in pronouncing words correctly, and typically words frequently used in America but more foreign in their origins pose the greatest challenge. Filet Mignon for example, is pronounced Fill-et min yone rhyming with moan and accented at the end of the word. I'll tell her on our 70th anniversary which is still half a century away Anonymous II, I agree with most of what you said, except for one thing.
It's pretty much irrelevant to what I said. Using a small minority's inability to distinguish between two commonly recognized differences in vowel sounds ah- and aw- just look at every single dictionary surely cannot be used to justify rejecting the more common pronunciation. I stand by what I said before. Listing a bunch of words that have the vowel sound "aw-" cannot be used to support the pronunciation "ah-" over the the slightly more common "a".
It doesn't matter if a few people can't hear the difference between "ah-" and "aw-". The fact is, most people can.
And, regardless, there are plenty of words spelled "au", that ARE pronounced "ah-" and "a", and, while we're at it, "ow" rhymes with how, cow, etc.
So should I claim that aunt should have the same vowel sound as cow? How one word or a list of words is pronounced just doesn't have anything to do with how any other particular word should be pronounced. English is filled with many words of different origins where the same spelling has many different pronunciations.
Perhaps you're familiar with "ghoti"? I did not expect to even find an answer to my question I typed in Google which was as follows: " why do black people pronounce aunt different than white people? LOL I don't think it is a regional thing as every white person I know says aunt "ant" and every black person I know says aunt "awnt" or "awnty" which the latter drives me nuts for some reason. And it does not seem to matter what city or area they are filmed or where the litigants are from, black people pronounce aunt "awnt" or "awnty".
Someone mentioned that it comes from the way the English pronounce it. Well if that is the case then why don't we pronounce the word little with no "t" sound in the word the way they do?
That is just one small example. On another note I've travelled all over our country and have heard many accents. Some subtle some down right annoying. I have never heard a southern accent, Bostonian no r's accent or an ebonic speaking accent on a TV newscast.
Why is that? What usually goes through my head is "is this person from around the area I live originally? Forums English Only English Only. JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You should upgrade or use an alternative browser. Thread starter stephenlearner Start date Jun 6, Hi, In America, does aunt have the same pronunciation as ant?
Copyright Senior Member Penang. It does in the Midwest One is the flat A of "ant". The other is closer to "on" or "bonfire". In America, does aunt have the same pronunciation as ant? Click to expand Spanish Spain and German Germany. There's a sentence I used to teach my Spanish students so they learned to pronounce "aren't" correctly: There aren't any ants in my aunt's kitchen.
Glenfarclas Senior Member Chicago. And then, of course, they play 'sucker' and when they do not like someone, they might call him a 'soccer' - again, that is what I hear. In many places in northern England and Scotland, you'd get the same vowel in ant and aunt as well - only different from the American pronunciation because it's without the degree of nasalisation and it's a more open vowel. Listen, for example, to the Yorkshire and Scottish pronunciations in our dictionary: aunt - WordReference.
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